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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0005599IndyLastCrusade[All Projects] Generalpublic2022-08-04 00:05
ReporterTorti the Smurf 
Assigned ToJOTDProject InfoIndiana Jones & The Last Crusade (Lucasfilm Games)
http://www.whdload.de/games/IndyLastCrusade.html
 
PrioritynormalSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionfixed 
Summary0005599: This Room Flickers
Description(The Room PICTURE is down below)

When Indy is in Venice/Catacombs, there is a Room with a "Plug" at the sealing. (Indy will put a hook into this "plug" and use his Whip to drain the Water)

This Room FLICKERS !! ( it has something to do with the "Blup Blup, Blup" SoundFX )

Music and SoundFx seems general a bit buggy,like Loom.

Anyway, this Room FLICKERS on any Amiga i tried and any Language.
(If it dosent flicker immediately, let Indy stand there for a few seconds ; this Room will FLICKER)

Steps To ReproduceWell, just play the Game or use a save :)
TagsNo tags attached.
MachineA1200
CPU68020
CPUSpeed50
ChipSetAGA
GFXCardNone
ChipMem2 MB
FastMem30 MB
WorkbenchOS 3.9
KickROM40 - Kick 3.1
KickSoftNone
WHDLoad18.7
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note ~0011188

JOTD (developer)

can you provide a savegame there?

note ~0011572

Torti the Smurf (reporter)

Sorry JOTD, for being so late.

The saves are from the german version, so you will get messed up text in other languages, BUT it still works !

Choose the second save and exit, you will see this room will flicker on every hardware and WinUAE setting i have tested it on.

Even in older slaves, this room is ... "weird"

Would be great if you could do your magic. Fingers cross you can fix this classic. It effects all versions and languages.

Greetings and sorry angain for being so late ;)

note ~0011579

JOTD (developer)

hi

what about this version? there's sometimes (rarely) some flickering but it's really better.

note ~0011580

retrogamer (reporter)

@JOTD

If you are going to update the slave please can you reduce memory usage to 512kb chip + 256kb fastram?

note ~0011582

retrogamer (reporter)

Game manual attatched please include for the next update.

note ~0011590

Torti the Smurf (reporter)

Hi JOTD (T_T)

Its WAY better with the new modiefied Slave, it flickers sometimes but not as many times as in the past.

The really interesting thing is....
IF you use the HOOK with the WOODE PLUG, then use the WHIP the Water will come bursting in and the Flickering is completly gone.

( does the flicker has something to do with the BLupp ... Blupp .. Blupp SoundFX, that Timing is pretty random ... maybe that is connected to the flickering problem...hmmm )

I use the the prototype new indy slave for now. Thank you very much JODT.

(a total fix would be still be very welcomed - its a true classic after all)

Greetings, Torti

note ~0011592

Torti the Smurf (reporter)

Hi Again :)

I did more testing.

There is absolutly no flicker on MIST (ECS and AGA Core)
but it seems that now the transisions between screen take longer.

Back to that strange room...

If i use the Tooltype NOCACHE , Indy will walk slow (nocache) but with a very random tempo through this room.

(happend also in older Slaves)

Something fishy is going on in this room.

Ron Gilbert once said that the SCUMM version in Indy3 was pretty buggy, also with Loom; and they fixed it with The secret of Monkey Island.

So i guess, there is some buggy stuff going on there.

Loom also has this strange music behaviour like Indy 3.
(tempo problems, hick ups, especially if a screen changes to a new one (chip mem activity)

Is there any source code available for Indy3 & Loom ?

That would be interesting ;)

Anyway, sorry i could not be of more help.

note ~0011647

JOTD (developer)

this bug is related to buggy sound replay too. Fixing the sound replay introduces those flickers.

The more sfx are playing the more the flickering...
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-Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2022-04-21 13:47 Torti the Smurf New Issue
2022-04-21 13:47 Torti the Smurf File Added: Flicker-Room.jpg
2022-04-23 14:52 StingRay Assigned To => JOTD
2022-04-23 14:52 StingRay Status new => assigned
2022-04-23 16:06 JOTD Status assigned => feedback
2022-04-23 16:06 JOTD Note Added: 0011188
2022-07-17 17:35 Torti the Smurf File Added: saves.lha
2022-07-17 17:35 Torti the Smurf Note Added: 0011572
2022-07-17 17:35 Torti the Smurf Status feedback => assigned
2022-07-18 21:01 JOTD File Added: IndyLastCrusade.zip
2022-07-18 21:02 JOTD Note Added: 0011579
2022-07-18 21:02 JOTD Status assigned => confirmed
2022-07-18 21:26 retrogamer Note Added: 0011580
2022-07-18 23:07 retrogamer File Added: Manual.zip
2022-07-18 23:07 retrogamer Note Added: 0011582
2022-07-24 13:39 Torti the Smurf Note Added: 0011590
2022-07-24 23:04 Torti the Smurf Note Added: 0011592
2022-08-04 00:05 JOTD Note Added: 0011647
2022-08-04 00:05 JOTD Status confirmed => closed
2022-08-04 00:05 JOTD Resolution open => fixed
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