WHDLoad MantisBT - WHDLoad
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0004010WHDLoad[All Projects] Generalpublic2018-11-16 12:092023-02-01 07:17
ReporterWepl 
Assigned ToWepl 
PrioritynormalSeveritycrashReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutionunable to reproduce 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version18.3 
Target Version18.4Fixed in Version 
MachineA4000
CPU68EC030
CPUSpeed25
ChipSetAGA
GFXCardNone
ChipMem2 MB
FastMem16 MB onboard 256 MB BigRAM
WorkbenchOS 3.1.4
KickROM46 - Kick 3.1.4
KickSoftNone
WHDLoad18.3
Summary0004010: crash on 68030 with 3.1.4
Description> > > > I have been having some issues running any WHDLoad games on my A4000
> > > > with the latest 3.1.4 Kickstart (in a real ROM).
> > > > The problem was running any WHDLoad game just throws a Guru Meditation
> > > > error (8000 0003) then the machine resets.
> > > > After many hours of troubleshooting, I have pin-pointed the problem
> > > > and now WHDLoad games are working.
> > > > The problem was resolved by commenting out the SetPatch command in the
> > > > default 3.1.4 startup-sequence.
> > > > I assume you know about this, but if not you may want to have a look
> > > > and find out what the 3.1.4 SetPatch is doing that kills WHDLoad.
> > > > It may be an A4000-thing... I have at least one of every Amiga but I
> > > > have not checked if the problem exists on my other machines since I do
> > > > not have the 3.1.4 ROMs for any of my other Amigas.
> > >
> > > I have no information yet about any compatibiity problems with 3.1.4.
> > > I'm using myself 3.1.4 on 4000/60.
> > > Your problem sounds like a problem with the 68060.library.
> > > Can you tell me the version of your:
> > > libs:68*
> > > c:setpatch
> > > whdload
> > My 4000 is using the 68EC030 card (A3630) with a PLCC 68882 FPU.
> >
> > 68030.library : 46.5 (from BestWB released for 3.1.4....
> > http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/BestWB.htm)
> > SetPatch : 45.15 (standard with 3.1.4)
> > WHDLoad : 18.3 (build 5863) It's the latest version on your web site.
> btw, I just tested my A4000 with a A3640 68040 card and it works fine
> as-is without any issues and with SetPatch loaded.
> So this problem seems to be A4000 + A3630(68EC030) specific.
> I tested a different A4000 computer with a different A3630 card and
> the same HDD and I get the same results, upon loading any WHDLoad
> game, the system just crashes with a Guru error if SetPatch 45.15 is
> loaded.
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Attached Filesjpg DSCN3150.JPG (129,367) 2018-11-16 22:10
http://mantis.whdload.de/file_download.php?file_id=648&type=bug
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? WHDLoad.prefs (1,831) 2018-11-21 02:40
http://mantis.whdload.de/file_download.php?file_id=650&type=bug
? whdl_detect (1,280) 2019-01-05 17:59
http://mantis.whdload.de/file_download.php?file_id=662&type=bug

Notes
(0006493)
Wepl   
2018-11-16 12:12   
Do you have option MMU set?
Please run tool http://whdload.de/whdload/Tools/FcCheck and post the output.
Warning it may also crash the machine.
(0006495)
fordav1   
2018-11-16 22:10   
output of FcCheck tool is attached
(0006506)
Wepl   
2018-11-20 18:59   
Do you have the MMU option enabled in the global configuration file or the icon?
See also http://whdload.de/docs/en/mmu.html
(0006509)
fordav1   
2018-11-21 02:40   
There is no MMU option set in icon. The MMU item is listed in WHDLoad.prefs, but is commented out with ; before. WHDLoad.prefs file is attached.
(0006634)
Wepl   
2019-01-05 17:58   
I have no other reports similar yet.
I assume the issue may be connected to your uncommon hw with 68ec030+fpu.
Can you please run the attached whdl_detect.
Does it crash like WHDLoad? If not please tell me the return code (echo $RC).
Please try also if the latest WHDLoad beta http://whdload.de/whdload/whd184.lha changes anything.
(0006793)
fordav1   
2019-04-25 08:17   
I ran the whdl_detect program and it ran and showed nothing on screen. I installed and ran WHDLoad beta whd184.lha and it crashes when running any game, same as before.
(0006800)
Wepl   
2019-04-25 22:55   
whdl_detect: Please tell me the return code (echo $RC).
(0006802)
fordav1   
2019-04-26 02:15   
I have said in last note, program ran from CLI and displayed nothing on screen (no return code or any other text). If I need to run it with additional parameters please provide full command line text.
(0006810)
Wepl   
2019-04-29 11:16   
I know that it doesn't display anything. But it sets the return code depending on the present hardware. You can display the return code with
  echo $RC
Please tell me with which return code it ends.
(0006811)
fordav1   
2019-04-29 12:50   
return code is 55
(0006813)
Wepl   
2019-04-29 22:51   
Thanks. So the cpu detection works as expected.
To get an idea where it fails please do the following.
Get latest beta from http://whdload.de/whdload/whd186.lha and copy the WHDLoad from it to your prefered location (e.g. C:).
Run a game from the CLI/Shell with the option TRACECON.
E.g.:
cd <where games is installed and *.slave resides>
whdload <name of the slave file> tracecon
This will display trace messages of whdload.
After each line whdload will wait one second.
Please tell me the last line it prints (if possible the last few lines) before it crashes.

Issue History
2018-11-16 12:09WeplNew Issue
2018-11-16 12:10WeplAssigned To => Wepl
2018-11-16 12:10WeplStatusnew => assigned
2018-11-16 12:12WeplNote Added: 0006493
2018-11-16 22:10fordav1File Added: DSCN3150.JPG
2018-11-16 22:10fordav1Note Added: 0006495
2018-11-20 16:45WeplFastMem0 MB => 16 MB onboard 256 MB BigRAM
2018-11-20 16:45WeplWorkbenchOS 3.1 => OS 3.1.4
2018-11-20 16:45WeplKickROM40 - Kick 3.1 => 45 - Kick 3.1.4
2018-11-20 18:59WeplNote Added: 0006506
2018-11-21 02:40fordav1File Added: WHDLoad.prefs
2018-11-21 02:40fordav1Note Added: 0006509
2019-01-05 17:58WeplNote Added: 0006634
2019-01-05 17:59WeplFile Added: whdl_detect
2019-04-18 18:30WeplStatusassigned => feedback
2019-04-25 08:17fordav1Note Added: 0006793
2019-04-25 22:55WeplNote Added: 0006800
2019-04-26 02:15fordav1Note Added: 0006802
2019-04-29 11:16WeplNote Added: 0006810
2019-04-29 12:50fordav1Note Added: 0006811
2019-04-29 22:51WeplNote Added: 0006813
2020-05-10 14:08WeplStatusfeedback => closed
2020-05-10 14:08WeplResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2023-02-01 07:16RedWingsKickROM45 - Kick 3.1.4 => 47 - Kick 3.2
2023-02-01 07:17RedWingsKickROM47 - Kick 3.2 => 46 - Kick 3.1.4