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(0004654)
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sheik
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2015-08-02 21:49
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Checked versions, I am testing with SPS #407, WHDLoad Slave v1.01 (2012-02-14) |
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Thanks for the report, game is indeed unplayable on fast machines. I have now added a timing fix which will slow down the game, the timing fix can be disabled with CUSTOM1. Have fun. :) |
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sheik
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2016-08-08 17:22
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First of all, thank you so much for looking at this. Your new version is indeed more playable, especially in two-player mode.
However, I've just done side by side comparisons on my accelerated Amiga 1200 (stats on this ticket) running WHDLoad, compared to the disk version running on an A600. The WHDLoad version is still noticeably faster I'm afraid.
This affects things like moving players, passing (like I say, new version is better, so you can pass now) and also things like recovering from a fumble (in one player mode, this is very, very difficult, as you have to press your fire button before the computer responds, but with the timer running fast, you pretty much have no chance :-) ).
I don't know how I can quantify how fast the game runs, only that it is definitely faster compared to the OCS version that the game creators intended it to run on. If I had to guess, I'd say it was about 25% too fast when running on my 68030.
I'm in a PAL region by the way, I don't know if that is relevant. I have tried adding the PAL switch to the slave, but it made no difference, so I'm guessing I've always been running in PAL.
Any ideas on what can be done? |
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sheik
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2016-08-08 17:29
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Thanks for the fast response, appreciated! :) Please try the attached slaved, is the speed now correct? |
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sheik
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2016-08-08 22:51
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This is superb! Thank you so much for making a new version so quickly!
I have just played two quarters and it is very playable indeed now. Subjectively, I still think it's a tiny bit faster than a 68K machine but it's no longer a problem as you have time to throw now.
I even won a fumble with this version :).
If you don't mind, could you post some details of your fix, as I for one would be interested to know how you tweak for consistent timings. Do you try and target 30 frames per second for example, or is it less precise than that?
Also, have you ever done a slave that allows the user to tweak the speed from the load options? |
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Thanks for testing, I will keep the timing fix like this then. As for your question, the game runs so slow on a500 that there was no sync with the raster beam, in the patch I have added a raster wait (using WaitTOF as the game is system-friendly) which will make the game run at the same speed on all machines.
I have also created patches with selectable slow-down fixes, i.e. using one of the CUSTOM tooltypes it is possible to change the slow-down factor. I can easily add an option like that for TV Sports Football too if that's reason for your question? |
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sheik
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2016-08-09 14:45
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That's great, thank you.
I only asked about the config option as I'm conscious that other people may disagree with my opinion. Certainly, your previous version (the one with 3 WaitTOFs in the delay loop) ran smoother on my set up and would probably be more enjoyable in two player mode than the latest one.
But for single player mode, and for closest-to-original experience, the latest version is "best" :-). |
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My pleasure. :) I think I will add the option to select the slow-down factor so people can choose what they like best. That way everyone can decide which speed the game should run at. Thanks for testing and the fast feedback, updated patch will be available this evening or tomorrow I think. :)
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sheik
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2016-08-09 16:27
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If it's any help, you could use something like this as the readme notes:
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When playing on accelerated machines, the following timing fix options will affect game speed:
Standard - Very close to original OCS 68K speed. Recommended for single player mode.
Turbo - Faster player movement, recommended for two player mode. Note: if playing against the computer, recovering from fumbles will be harder.
Disabled - Disable timing fixes, run as fast as possible. |
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Excellent! I have added your info to the readme and updated the patch, 3 options to change the game speed are now available and can be selected with CUSTOM1. The updated patch is available on the WHDLoad site.
Thanks for great feedback! :) |
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sheik
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2016-08-10 12:46
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Just tested both fixes, and they work brilliantly, thank you so much again!
(I also retested the "no timing fix" option. I'd forgotten how crazy fast it ran before :-) ) |
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sheik
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2016-08-10 12:46
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This bug should definitely be marked Resolved now! |
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TVSportsFootball.slave (2,380) 2016-08-08 19:14