WHDLoad MantisBT - DeepCore
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0002078DeepCore[WHDLoad Installs Games] slavepublic2009-05-26 23:072022-06-18 11:35
ReporterRetroplay 
Assigned ToJOTD 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
MachineA1200
CPU68EC020
CPUSpeed14
ChipSetAGA
GFXCardNone
ChipMem2 MB
FastMem4 MB
WorkbenchOS 3.1
KickROM39 - Kick 3.0
KickSoftNone
WHDLoad16.9
imported
Summary0002078: Slowdowns
DescriptionWhen a lot of enemies are on screen there's alot of slowdowns.
TagsNo tags attached.
Attached Files? DeepCore.Slave (2,276) 2009-06-28 21:36
http://mantis.whdload.de/file_download.php?file_id=23&type=bug

Notes
(0001200)
Retroplay   
2009-06-13 15:52   
I have noticed that on my real A1200 the game is too slow but it's fine in WinUAE 1.6.0 with a similar setup.
(0001201)
Wepl   
2009-06-13 18:09   
because of the inserted blitwaits and removed blithog it can be slower than before.
have you tried CACHE tooltype?
(0001206)
Retroplay   
2009-06-13 19:14   
No, only NOCACHE tooltype.
Will try asap and report back.
(0001215)
Retroplay   
2009-06-14 15:42   
Slowdowns still occur on real A1200 no matter what tooltypes I try.
(0001220)
Wepl   
2009-06-15 19:10   
please try attached slave, I removed blithog patches
also it would be interesting if you have compared the behavior when played from floppy, is there no slowdown?
(0001221)
Retroplay   
2009-06-15 19:51   
It plays fine without any slowdowns from floppy disk.
Will report back later about the new slave. :)
(0001228)
Retroplay   
2009-06-16 15:29   
Slowdowns are still present I'm afraid.
Ingame it still runs at half speed, intro is fine.
(0001270)
Wepl   
2009-06-25 01:03   
please test the updated/attached slave, it should be some faster
and please please tell me if you are still testing on a a1200 with 4mb fast mem
(0001272)
Retroplay   
2009-06-25 22:29   
(Last edited: 2009-06-25 22:30)
It's still running too slow, I'd say half the speed it should.
I compared with the CD32 version running from HD and adf images transferred to floppy.

I have 8mb fast and a 68881 fpu
I have a Microbotics MBX 1200 in the trap door expansion slot.

(0001281)
Wepl   
2009-06-28 21:38   
I have now disabled the blitter patches on 68020 and below.
Please try it again.
(0001282)
Retroplay   
2009-06-29 09:12   
It's working perfect now.
Thank you very much. :)
(0001283)
haynor666   
2009-06-29 12:07   
Great, i'll try when I return from work.
(0001285)
haynor666   
2009-07-01 21:47   
(Last edited: 2009-07-01 22:02)
game still have slowndowns but a little less. for example on first stage player jumping still a bit slow but on second (without water) it's faster. Also shoting is more rapid on second level. I tested disk version.

Intro is still bad - still messed music instead of ambient sounds.

Tested on 030 proc. with 32mb fast

But CD32 version started from works great maybe a little to fast :)

(0001322)
Wepl   
2009-07-30 00:45   
would be nice if you could test the install package attached to #454, there are also some other changes
(0001324)
Retroplay   
2009-07-30 02:48   
Intro is fixed.
I didn't even know it was bad until I tried the new slave.
(0001325)
haynor666   
2009-07-30 07:58   
Ok, I'll try new slave in next 2 days ;)
(0001332)
haynor666   
2009-07-31 22:25   
I tried and I still think it's a little too slow on first stage.
(0001499)
haynor666   
2009-10-08 19:02   
Can anybody confirm slowndowns or it's just my A1200 030 43 Mb Fast?
(0001500)
Retroplay   
2009-10-08 19:51   
It works fine with latest attached slave on my standard A1200 with 4 or 8 Mb fast.
(0001501)
haynor666   
2009-10-08 20:30   
with processor... ?
(0001502)
Retroplay   
2009-10-08 20:42   
Standard A1200 = 68EC020. :p :)
(0001503)
haynor666   
2009-10-08 21:14   
I have EC030. DOS install made from CD32 works a bit too fast but disk version is still to slow.
(0001510)
haynor666   
2009-10-14 08:50   
Are these blitter patches needed for 030 processor? Cd32 works very nice using DOS install. Does floppy version really needs this ?
(0001773)
haynor666   
2010-05-14 17:03   
Any chances for fixes ?
(0001774)
Wepl   
2010-05-15 20:02   
what problems do you have with install attached to 0000454?
(0001778)
haynor666   
2010-05-17 10:20   
I have 030 proc and these blitterwaits are still present. Yesterday I have played a little with original disk version not using whdload. Still it's faster when I compare to whdload install. I didn't tested CD32 version using whdload but game started straight from main exe is in fact much faster than original :)
(0002797)
Retroplay   
2012-09-10 17:02   
I have just noticed a minor problem using v1.2 slave.
If you press space and change title music and then again press space to change it back, it crashes with an exception.
Full error dumps here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2rh9tx5h5c2keei

I know you hate the game Wepl, so no rush, just want to let you know about it. :)
(0002863)
Retroplay   
2012-12-12 18:50   
I have since I reported this issue acquired an ACA1232.

The slowdown are indeed still present on 030 (both disk and CD32 slave).
What a twat this game has turned out to be. :D
(0003446)
haynor666   
2013-09-13 16:04   
Too bad that it wasn't fixed. Adding option for removing blitterwaits would be very nice. On the other hand CD32 version (standard DOS install) on 030 is too fast.
(0011458)
JOTD   
2022-06-18 11:35   
new version will have option to turn off blitterwaits

Issue History
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayNew Issue
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayMachine => A1200
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayCPU => 68EC020
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayCPUSpeed => 14
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayChipSet => AGA
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayGFXCard => None
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayChipMem => 2 MB
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayFastMem => 4 MB
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayWorkbench => OS 3.1
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayKickROM => 39 - Kick 3.0
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayKickSoft => None
2009-05-26 23:07RetroplayWHDLoad => 16.9
2009-05-27 21:04WeplStatusnew => assigned
2009-05-27 21:04WeplAssigned To => Wepl
2009-06-13 15:52RetroplayNote Added: 0001200
2009-06-13 18:09WeplNote Added: 0001201
2009-06-13 19:14RetroplayNote Added: 0001206
2009-06-14 15:42RetroplayNote Added: 0001215
2009-06-15 19:08WeplFile Added: DeepCore.Slave
2009-06-15 19:10WeplNote Added: 0001220
2009-06-15 19:51RetroplayNote Added: 0001221
2009-06-16 15:29RetroplayNote Added: 0001228
2009-06-25 00:42WeplFile Deleted: DeepCore.Slave
2009-06-25 00:42WeplFile Added: DeepCore.Slave
2009-06-25 01:03WeplNote Added: 0001270
2009-06-25 22:29RetroplayNote Added: 0001272
2009-06-25 22:30RetroplayNote Edited: 0001272
2009-06-28 21:36WeplFile Deleted: DeepCore.Slave
2009-06-28 21:36WeplFile Added: DeepCore.Slave
2009-06-28 21:38WeplNote Added: 0001281
2009-06-29 09:12RetroplayNote Added: 0001282
2009-06-29 12:07haynor666Note Added: 0001283
2009-07-01 21:47haynor666Note Added: 0001285
2009-07-01 21:49haynor666Note Edited: 0001285
2009-07-01 22:02haynor666Note Edited: 0001285
2009-07-30 00:45WeplNote Added: 0001322
2009-07-30 02:48RetroplayNote Added: 0001324
2009-07-30 07:58haynor666Note Added: 0001325
2009-07-31 22:25haynor666Note Added: 0001332
2009-10-08 19:02haynor666Note Added: 0001499
2009-10-08 19:51RetroplayNote Added: 0001500
2009-10-08 20:30haynor666Note Added: 0001501
2009-10-08 20:42RetroplayNote Added: 0001502
2009-10-08 21:14haynor666Note Added: 0001503
2009-10-14 08:50haynor666Note Added: 0001510
2010-05-14 17:03haynor666Note Added: 0001773
2010-05-15 20:02WeplNote Added: 0001774
2010-05-17 10:20haynor666Note Added: 0001778
2012-09-10 17:02RetroplayNote Added: 0002797
2012-12-12 18:50RetroplayNote Added: 0002863
2013-09-13 16:04haynor666Note Added: 0003446
2022-06-18 11:35JOTDAssigned ToWepl => JOTD
2022-06-18 11:35JOTDStatusassigned => closed
2022-06-18 11:35JOTDResolutionopen => fixed
2022-06-18 11:35JOTDNote Added: 0011458